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New Childhood Pornography Laws May Restrict the Creation of Eroge with Characters That Appear Underaged!

ss (2013-04-30 at 11.13.36) (1) According to this page (and also newnews2ch.com), It looks like on the 26th of April, a new document has been released detailing the new child pornography laws. The kind of restrictions stated on this document is just scary. It says if you are in possession of, not just child pornography, but any clothed pictures or media of a child that is portrayed in such a way as to sexually arouse the viewer, MEANS the possessor will face either a maximum of one year in prison, or a 1,000,000 yen fine!

But the most problematic area of the document is that, in 3 years time, it says it promises to implement restrictions regarding the creation of erofictional works portraying characters that appear underaged!

EDIT: the way I understand 制作自粛 is, is it self-regulation in authored works?
Anime director taiki_nishimura says that any character that is obviously junior school kid, UP TO characters that are clad in SCHOOL UNIFORM (implying a school student), are going to be placed under scrutiny for ero-anime. It says starting from April, a number of ero-anime makers creating such works must refrain. For the time being, the industry is to self-regulate. Whatever that means. Basically anything that appears child-pornographic-like to an overseas buyer has to be self-regulated until it does not. So the ‘we look like middle school kids but we’re actually 18!’ trick, won’t work anymore, not in the coming years, not unless these rules are majorly scaled back. (by the way it only mentions ero-anime and ero-manga, but I assume ero-ge is also implied)

I couldn’t pick up the exact meaning of these sentences so if someone can correct them or point to a more accurate translation, then Please.
What I know is that the battle for freedom of expression rages on in Japan, as it has been raging for the past one/two decades, it’s very active from ever since I first learnt of it.

Tay

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Muir
10 years ago

oAo oh my, lolicons are in a crisis. This is horrifying.

Lolicon
Reply to  Muir
10 years ago

yeah.. can’t live without lolis..

Aaeru
10 years ago

yea 制作自粛 = self-regulation. as in if u dont self-regulate, we will regulate for you. it’s a threat.
https://twitter.com/anonymousmzk/status/329078761737834497
https://twitter.com/anonymousmzk/status/329079172024643584

steve lolicon
10 years ago

well we will see, but I dont think they would kill whole eroge industry (high school girls in maybe 99%) and parts of ani culture with ero body pillows and all that.

And if they do, there is still lot of those I didn’t play yet to last me tens of years, I guess I’d download those, even if not the best rated ones.
Once on the internet – forever on the internet.

Guimu
10 years ago

And what happens to these who already have eroges with lolis inside? Man this law is pretty stupid :/

Raptor
10 years ago

Good bye TLR:D & Co. >_<

PGGW
10 years ago

Go for it. The faster loli archetype will be banished the better. It’s one thing that usually they’re most annoying characters in whole story, but what is more important presenting sexual content with (fictional) person who is OBVIOUSLY underaged is just sick. And fuck those guys who jerk off to drawed kids having sex.

raina0h
Reply to  PGGW
10 years ago

You dont really get anything do you ? i feel really bad for you, being so pitiful, not being able to appreciate loli’s, its fine being that way but criticizing others tastes just because you have a diferent opinion on the matter…

OT: This is a terrible idea overall, it will limit the characters, new eroge might get boring cause of it or it might not sell as well as it could due to no lolis.

Fadeway
Reply to  PGGW
10 years ago

How dare people enjoy something you don’t. I agree fully, let’s ban it because it’s sick and I dislike it!

You probably don’t understand what the purpose of anti-child porn laws is in the first place. Sadly, the idiots who made the law definitely don’t, when it’s clearly part of their job description.

Otherside
Reply to  PGGW
10 years ago

While I do not advocate pedophilia and the like and while I agree that at times loli characters can be rather annoying (won’t mention any names of course, that would be quite mean *cough* Sanzenin Nagi*cough*), I do feel that your comments are unnecessarily biased.

Take these arguments for instance:
One can enjoy loli characters without being a pedophile. It’s human nature to enjoy cute things, people fawn over puppies, kittens etc, when you think about it, those are child versions of animals. Humans are but another animal we fawn over the cuteness of them when their little.

If you wish to ban loli characters because you feel that it will lead to someone being a pedophile, I would also suggest you ban pictures of animals in case it leads someone to developing a love for beastiality. And what about showing blood in tv and movies, it could lead to all our children becoming sadists!!

Also, there are cases where a person has a mental condition which makes them find children arousing. Surely anime and the like that contains loli-ero can serve as an outlet for their desires. Removing that outlet could cause them to grab a white van and abduct children off the street.

And I don’t believe you should ban something just because it LOOKS like a child. Personally I have a medical condition, my body is not aging as fast as other people. I am often mistaken for a fourteen year old, yet I will be 20 years old come August. It’s a sad fact of life. If I were to date another 20 year old I am sure you would get up in arms, calling the poor girl a pedophile. Yet if I was to date a 14 year old, you would just think that it’s just teenagers dating when I would in fact be committing an act of pedophilia. As the old saying goes ‘Never judge a book by its cover.’

I hope you will think upon this, I am not asking you to being a loli fan, I just hope that you can appreciate the other side of the argument.

Budhist
Reply to  PGGW
10 years ago

we do not approve of pedophilia, nor do we reject it as well. if others don’t like it, then let them be. Happiness is a choice. Life isn’t about pleasing everybody. saying this you should also keep in mind that our primary purpose in this life is to help others, if you cant – at least don’t hurt them 🙂

@Marthene
10 years ago

So how do we protest and fight against this law ? Can the people in Japan protest and fight against it ?

Garglefart
10 years ago

Good, maybe this will eventually cut down on how many stupid westerners think its acceptable to be a pedophile just because its 2d.

Trumpeteer
Trumpeteer
Reply to  Garglefart
10 years ago

Oh please, many of these characters are 18 or over, just because they look young doesn’t make them illegal mister! Also, some of them are even thousands of years old, they just look young. Please stop discriminating!

Garglefart
Reply to  Garglefart
10 years ago

Get out of here trumpeteer, troll me not.

WwwW
Reply to  Garglefart
10 years ago

What is wrong with 2d porn then?

Farewell
10 years ago

oh, and why don”t they make a law against bad influential movies/TV shows, books, and other dreadful entertainments much video games. oh what will become of the forms of entertainment. all of it is full of rubbish, i say screw that law, not that my opinion matters. but, such entertainment is certainly not the only bad influence, people…

S_Q
Reply to  Farewell
10 years ago

I love that they’ll get rid of ero-loli but let things like Berserk go on. hell that manga has blood, guts, rape and torture. (but it’s okay they treat children nicely)

SieghartXx
SieghartXx
10 years ago

“UP TO characters that are clad in SCHOOL UNIFORM (implying a school student)”
So, no more school-life visual novels? ;_;

Hiecchi
Hiecchi
Reply to  SieghartXx
10 years ago

Uni-life visual novels are coming 😛

SieghartXx
SieghartXx
Reply to  SieghartXx
10 years ago

But I want sailor uniforms ;_;

yame
10 years ago

Seems like they are facing more overseas pressure and so all the loli needs to go, but in all honest most anime characters will look underage to foreigns who look at it for the first time, it’s just that even IRL most Japanese girls look younger than they actually are so this is gonna be tricky and possibly racist to ban all this look a like under aged characters, sure that some of them are so obvious under aged.

All this is kinda funny when in Japan the age of consent to have sex is 13 so if a girl is a 13 year old you can legally have sex with her however you can’t have a VN with a girl which look like 13.

BloodyLucky
BloodyLucky
10 years ago

This is silly, banning anything with characters portrayed in a provoking manner that appears underage, including mangas, anime and VNs, would destroy part of the japanese culture as we know it. This will severely affect the way the otaku related products are made and distributed, and may eventually cause the ceasing of such market.
Some might say that this is good, but it is not. You may not enjoy it, but there are those who do. For comparison, people don’t cause ban games with extreme violence on Resident Evil or Mortal Combat, or heavy adult themes on Grand Theft Auto, so why should they ban here?
If you don’t like it or don’t agree with it, just don’t consume it. That’s how capitalism works. If it still exists, it’s because people consume it for their own entertainment and by their own will. Sure, there are limits to be had, but as long as there’s distinction of reality from fiction, changes like these are unnecessary.

Ragnar_Mat
Reply to  BloodyLucky
10 years ago

So no more ecchi in school life manga?? (of course ecchi is arousing.. isn’t it?)
Oh man, this is lame!! i do like ecchi manga like To Love-Ru.. who doesn’t? LoL

RagunaFactory
Reply to  BloodyLucky
10 years ago

So there won’t be comiket anymore??
No more Ero doujinshi??
No more action figure??
No more ecchi things??
No more Eroge??
WTH this law can’t make it worse–“

ReMeDy
10 years ago

B-But what about Kud Wafter!? The future of Kud Wafter is being threatened!

ReMeDy
10 years ago

So under the new laws, would this be pornographic?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/snuffles2187/wafu02.jpg

Cute, cuddly, charming, innocent image, but because it turns some people on it’s gotta go!?

koikuryuu
Reply to  ReMeDy
10 years ago

I can’t open the link. xD

AkitaSaito
10 years ago

Aren’t a lot of these laws introduced each year and get shot down?

koikuryuu
10 years ago

How about ecchi manga then? it’s a little bit arousing right?
will it be banned?

Hikaru
10 years ago

This is scary…………..

zolek123
10 years ago

To be honest. I’m sick of all the laws and rules regarding pornography and eroge. I’m not even afraid of admitting that I’m possessing things you consider “virtual child pornography”. So what? Am I a potential threat to 3D children? Hell no. Looking at 3D makes me sick mentally and physically. Anyway, I don’t mind if they stopped or banned products that depict underaged characters. This might be a good opportunity to collect some new data for researchers. I hope they won’t regret about the law they issued.

And keep this in mind folks, who think 2D lolicons are sick. There are even sicker people who obssess with money and are willing to trafficking 3D children to produce “real” child pornography. By eliminating 2D loli products, people are trying to convert 2D lolicon into 3D lolicon aka despicable criminals to both sides.

The bottom line is I hope the law would be passed internationally and I’m ready to be sentenced to jail for being different despite comitting no astrocious acts toward mankind.

No need to pay heed to my silly comment as it’s stupid to debate about something without substantial evidence and discourage people to vote down the law as the more you try to fight back, the easier for “normal and righteous” people to think that 2D lolis are the causes of child abuse.

SieghartXx
SieghartXx
Reply to  zolek123
10 years ago

That’s just like me. I love loli and stuff, but 3d kids don’t make me even smile D;

koikuryuu
Reply to  zolek123
10 years ago

even though there are 2D lolis who are annoying, there are much more 3D lolis who is more annoying.. There is no way 3D lolis can be that cute xD

Moreover, i do like 3D lolis as object of cuteness not as fap or sexual material…
It’s kinda sick to think 3D lolis as fap or sexual material..

LoL

riii
Reply to  zolek123
10 years ago

You sick perv….nah, just kidding. I don’t care if you have 3d loli vids or even the real stuff, whatever floats your boat I say (except cannibalism, I’ll kick your ass if you’re into that).

Sounds like another case of “lets waste our time fighting a smaller issue that no one will fight to defend instead of the larger more serious problem because we love money!”

steve
10 years ago

I also wonder what would they do with all the body pillows like http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0095PTKUW/
would they force people to burn it? There are people who have collections worth thousands of dollars in pillows, statues and games, manga, art books.
All that would have to be burned?

NeoDragon
10 years ago

Well, as always the politicians don’t understand that it’s just fiction (not RL) and that the players can and DO keep apart these two worlds. I (of course!!!!!) fully support such a law in regard to REAL photos (Yikes!), but a drawn image of manga-style-characters ? Oh boy…

Nanahoshii
10 years ago

Kirino is in trouble!

Shitcaster
10 years ago

LOL… a lot of this is just to stir up controversy and to keep the peoples minds off the REAL problem. POLITICIANS WHO ROB YOU BLIND. They take everything they can from you yet let themselves and their cronies get away with murder. DON”T BELIEVE ME? Just look at the past few years…

octal9
10 years ago

the thought police are world-wide now! scares the hell out of me the way conservative elements always crop up in times of crisis – instead of dealing with real problems the little men in suits that run our gov’t (here in u.s.a., japan, and elsewhere) have decided to deflect the questions of the voting public with stamping out our morality “problems” – it is both wrong and impossible to legislate thought, art, or dreams – this is a dark road that leads to a repeat of the horrors of red scare, holocaust, spanish inquisition, etc. keep on thinking free as that cannot be legislated!!!

Kai
10 years ago

I could had sworn I saw similar laws passed down some time ago.

Baka-chan
10 years ago

Meh . This law wont last , not worried …………

jrdp_18
10 years ago

So what happens to the stuff already bought over the past few years?
Will it be confiscated, too?

666monster
10 years ago

If I cannot be a lolicon than I shall be a pedophile… It`s as simple as that… Thank you law for making me go to jail.

Keiichi
Reply to  666monster
10 years ago

Pedophile != Child rapist.

Byrdman
10 years ago

Some of the comments here are sickening to actually see

teddy
10 years ago

Some of guys need to reevaluate yourselves

with a professional counselor

asap

judas
10 years ago
RomanOf5ives
10 years ago

To some of you folks.

There is life outside of your basement.

wltr3565
10 years ago

… This will endanger PSO2. If SEGA increases the characters’ minimum height limit to around 153 cm, I won’t play PSO2 anymore…

Anon
10 years ago

Dear Weaboos,

get a life

riii
10 years ago

Dear dumbasses who are giving us loli lovers crap….shut up.

Shoko
10 years ago

Dear all

Don’t worry, this won’t last long
And get a life, there are more interesting things in life than this stupid law

less
10 years ago

they will live inside my ‘memories and imaginations’ realm, forever, untouched by the law.

Haborym
10 years ago

OH GOD NO

Woots
10 years ago

Lolishota lover here looool~! XD But seriously, it’s really saddening to see both genders getting a no-go for this… 🙁